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Music mogul Jay Z‘s Tidal is reportedly under fire from fellow executive Birdman‘s Cash Money Records over copyright issues.
According to reports, Baby‘s Cash Money has sued Tidal for $50 million over streaming estranged artist Lil Wayne’s FWA album without proper permission.
According to the lawsuit, Tidal has claimed Cash Money does not have a exclusive lock on Wayne … Tidal claims Wayne specifically gave it the right to stream his music, in return for part ownership in the company. Cash Money begs to differ, and the company quotes portions of its contract with Lil Wayne in the lawsuit. The contract specifically says Wayne does not have the power to license his music to anyone else. (TMZ)
Wayne’s highly-anticipated Lil Weezyana Fest concert will be live streamed through Tidal in August.
“I’ve connected with my fans in such a cool way with the help of Tidal, and with this Tidal X I can’t wait to bring them another experience,” states Lil Wayne. “Lil Weezyana Fest is so special to me and I’m excited to share it with fans in New Orleans and online.” (AHH)
Hot Boys’ Turk spoke to SOHH last week about how the reunion concert came together.
“That’s official. It’s time for it. We’ve all been working and it was in the works, it was just about finding the time that we were going to do it. [Lil] Wayne decided to do it for the anniversary of Hurricane Katrina and gave everybody a call – me, Juvenile, Mannie Fresh, B.G., he’s locked up, but of course we were ready to do it because it was time for it.” (SOHH)
The announcement came days after Wayne released his FWA project on Tidal.
The 15-track FWA features appearances by Young Jeezy (“White Girl”), Wiz Khalifa (“Feeling Right”), Young Money associate Cory Gunz, Jim “CAPO” Jones and Black Uhuru’s Junior Reid (“Murda”), singer/songwriter Jake Troth (“My Heart Races On”), “B*tch Better Have My Money” writer Bibi Bourelly (“Without You”) and others. “I honestly gotta say that this #FWA album is my best work yet! I won’t let u down as a fan,” Weezy tweeted in April. “Dis sh!t is a beast! Ok let me get bak 2da booth.” (Rolling Stone)
Knew that was coming.
You did huh ?
Yea.
I even stated how I thought it sounded like it could’ve really been the Carter 5 album and not a mixtape.
It was his slick way of releasing it. If Wayne submitted 12 of those songs as songs to be on the Carter 5, then he screwed himself by being impatient.
Idk how they can get $ from Tidal without going after Wayne too tho. Unless that’s coming next.
Same, those songs were def C5 Quality, …. if he put it out for free and doesn’t receive royalties from the stream but receives a payment from Tidal for owning a % of it, that’s a bit different
its like selling an O to break even but your plug pays you X per week instead of taking a cut per dime/dub bag, Tidal (the plug) provides the customers, you do it for cost, but get $$$ per week from your plug lol
I’m telling you, Birdman got Wayne in one of Puff Daddy contracts. Wayne dont have the right to do shyt with his music but tour. Dayum shame Birdman own your Asz lil Wanye Lmao. Read them contracts. Jay can’t save you from that contract. Your next mixtape should be called. “No way Out”
To be fair, that’s anybody with a record deal. Ras Kass was still in a deal he signed with Priority back in 95 or some shit in 2010 when he tried to release something, and they squashed it.
Good points, Wayne’s camp guy.
Because Wayne signed a new deal in 2012. Birdman then said it was the biggest deal in Urban Music. Wayne is fucked anyway.
Even in 2012 though those streaming services weren’t part of the conversation. If he has a 360 deal, he’s fucked up a creek without a paddle and so is Tidal. But he might not have had to sign one, I don’t know. If he didn’t, this will be interesting to see how the law sees streaming an album as opposed to selling it like a normal one.
I know I’m mad late responding but dayum bra you just brought up Ras Kass. dude was one of the nicest from the West Coast. member when that nigga gotup with Kurupt , can I bus, and that other guy to form the four horsemen? only heard that one song on can I bus album but it was a classic straight lyrics nd bars word. But yeah nobody really saw streaming becoming so big. until it happened. allot of artist gonna get screwed. till it’s time for that new deal. Baby still doing Wayne dirty tho.
Yeah, Ras Kass always been cold on that mic. I hated how Priority did him dirty when they shelved him, but dude is mad nice. He’s still hustling though and dropping mix tapes.
yeah I kinda remember that shelved album. he was on some Pharaoh shyt with the cover. no wonder I didn’t buy it , it never came out. DaYum Now I gotta look it up cuz I’m sure it’s online somewhere by now.
You probably talking about the Van Gogh album. All that shit got leaked back then because he stole the masters from Priority Records and put it out when he was on the run from Cali for a DUI they wanted to lock him up for, lol. It’s like 3 or 4 versions of that album. That Primo track he had on there was fire though. That shit still holds up. Hea also had his version of the “We Gonna Make It” song that the Alchemist resold the beat to Jadakiss on one version, “Home Sweet Home,” and a few more nice tracks that hold up after all these years.
my nigga, that’s it! you a true fan. or you are ras kass himself lol either way good look on hitting that rap refresh button for me
Yeah, love that grimy shit with hard ass bars.
right right, hip hop go through phases , some day it’ll just back to that to that real shyt. don’t hold ya breath tho it could be a while.
Wow Wayne, get your business together…
How, by traveling forward through time?
that made no sense… you are actually the dumbest person this week
exactly. this is what 50cent was saying. that most artist on Today doesn’t have right of their own music. there is a reason why beyounce found it hard to be on Tidal. because SONY own the right. without the right given, is illegal for any song to be on tidal or apple or spotify and other streaming site.
Hell, 50 Cent didn’t have rights to his own music himself (at least not the hits), so I don’t know why he would comment. Unles you’re on E1 or independent without one of the big 3 backing you, you don’t own shit, that’s from the legends in the game like Prince to the trash artists. Prince had to re-record 1999 for the 2000 New Year because Warner Brothers owns that shit, and he was beefing with them at that time after he left the label.
Well, hopefully your guy prevails.
I don’t have a guy in this shit. Just think it’s funny that people think the record industry works differently for anybody. Tommy Matolla and Sony put Michael Jackson on ice when they felt like it, and I don’t think anybody else is ever going 80 times platinum again. This is all of the artists in the game fault because back in the mid 2000s, they could have taken control of things when the 4 majors at that time were on their knees due to file sharing trying to stick to their old model of selling albums to get their money. No, these dummies all jumped into 360 deals, which were a no no on principle alone back in the day.
That would have been best
Birdman is trying to starve Wayne out. It’s a sad situation, but it goes to show that in business NOBODY IS ON YOUR SIDE!! Get your lawyer game up. I’m pretty sure Wayne can find a loophole dealing with some type of “conflict of interest” in the signing of his contracts. He just needs to search hard enough.
Just s thought. But if bird man is indicted for trying to have Wayne killed as it’s been reported. I’m sure that would be a conflict of interest. Shit he might have action without the indictment…. My boss tried to kill me…. Has to be a conflict.
Wanted: High powered lawyer to take case of recording artist with no money because of huge tax bills
50 was tellin it how it was…but nah they say he was “hating”
There isn’t anything to tell. That’s how the record industry works if you want to be backed by one of the 3 majors, which all of these rappers’ and moguls’ vanity labels are backed by. They’re not investing in you just to help you out. They wanna get paid and put the money up to get it back 10-fold. A record deal ain’t nothing but a loan basically.
my point is he was saying those artist “signed” to tidal cant put out any music/album since they don’t even own the rights to their own music.
But that’s what we’ll see when this goes to court if Wayne doesn’t have a 360 deal. The 360 deals definitely include streaming services, but one of those older standard contracts didn’t. If Wayne’s in a standard contract, which I’m guessing he is or otherwise Tidal and Jay-Z are extremely stupid, something I don’t think anybody thinks, this will be interesting to see how the courts sort it out.
Them contracts will get ya. It don’t matter how tough you are in your music, them Paper Gangstas will take the food out of your mouth legally and laugh straight to the bank.
doing business w Lil Wayne is one thing, but giving him ownership in your company for his cooperation is not a good sign of the companies potential outlook