News: UPDATE: Masta Ace Reacts To MC Shan/Marley Marl Dispute, "He Was Owed Money As Well" [Audio]
Tuesday, Jan 24, 2012 9:09PM
Renowned Juice Crew member Masta Ace has stepped up to speak on the current war of words between estranged hip-hop pioneers MC Shan and Marley Marl over unpaid dues and uncredited production claims.
Rather than pick sides, Ace provided clarification on Marley not paying artists and how big of a role he played in producing Juice Crew records..
"As far as Marley owing him [MC Shan] money, I will say this - Cold Chillin' [Records] was the people writing the checks, not Marley Marl. The same way every artist on the label was paid, that's the same way Marley was paid. Not until very recently, probably the late 1990's or early 2000's, [Marley] actually sued the owners of Cold Chillin' to get part of the rights to the catalogue. He didn't even own the rights to any of the records he produced. ... Marley was one of the people that was owed money as well... As far as the production part of it, you know what they say; There's his version, there's your version and somewhere in the middle is the real truth. The fact of the matter is part of what Shan said was true. We would bring records to Marley's crib. My first album [Take A Look Around], take a look at all of the samples, almost all the samples on that album were [from] my mother's record collection that I brought up to Marley's crib but I didn't know how to work a sampler -- any of the machinery in his studio. ... In a way I produced the record but I didn't touch a button. I didn't touch a machine -- so he was producing the music." (Brooklyn Bodega Radio)
Last week, Marley lashed back at Shan's accusations and defended his image.
"To all the Juice Crew fans and who have loved our legacy for all these years, I'm real sorry that you have to see this go down," Marley said in a video. "To the other kids who don't know who this dude is in the background, this is MC Shan. He used to be one of the top rappers in the '80s down with the Juice Crew. ... As for me not making the records, come on man -- You saw what happened to all the artists after I wasn't producing their sh*t no more? I don't have to go there. I get to them every day on the radio. My skill levels right there, people see where I'm at so I doubt anybody believes that bullsh*t. This just comes from years of bitterness, drug abuse. Drug abuse and bitterness don't mix. This is what happens ladies and gentlemen." (YouTube)
On camera, Shan accused Marley Marl of treating artists unfairly and taking credit for production he did not do.
"Let me address that. I know this is something old I'm touching on," Shan said. "What y'all gotta understand is I knew Marley Marl and I've done songs with him that I didn't get paid for. So, I can understand [Masta] Ace for listening to that crap Marley was tellin' him but if y'all know me, I was never one to say nothin' on the side, behind your back. If I felt something about you, I was gonna say it to your face. It wasn't because Shan didn't wanna be on that record that Ace got a spot. Ace got a spot because he held his own. ... All of those joints y'all thought Marley Marl produced, let me tell you something. Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap, Biz Markie, all of them bring their own beats. They bring their own beats to the studio. Marley threw them in the sampler and put his name on it. My songs were the only ones that Marley sat down and actually had to work for." (Serious Knock Entertainment)
The war of words stemmed from a past Masta Ace interview.
In 1988, the Juice Crew released "The Symphony," which stands as one of the most beloved posse cuts of its era. The song features Big Daddy Kane, Craig G, Kool G Rap and Masta Ace and it was released on Marley Marl's In Control, Volume 1 album. A few years ago, Masta Ace shared his take on why MC Shan did not appear on the song. According to Ace (in the interview from 2008), Marley Marl told him that Shan did not appear on it because he felt he would have been "playing himself" to be on the same song as "new jacks" at the time. In response, Shan claimed this is not true. (Hip Hop DX)
Check out Masta Ace's interview below: